Monday, August 23, 2010

Black Powder load for a 357?

I have a 357 Mag Ruger Blackhawk and I want to shoot with a local black powder club so I was wondering if anyone knew what a safe load would be. I thought somewhere along the lines of a .38/40 as the case is round-about the same size. Volume wise it would be 25grs?


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OzBlack Powder load for a 357?
Soft lead (20-1 or softer) bullet, FFFg BP loaded by volume to where you get about 1/8'; compression when you seat the bullet.


You need a bullet with big lube grooves lubed with a good black powder lube like SPG, modern lubes do not work well with BP. Magnum primers should be used. this would be a full power BP load. For lighter loads you will need a filler as there should be no airspace in the cartridge.





Research your loads before starting, this is just for reference, I assume no responsibility for how you use this information .


Also research proper handling of black powder, using plastic and glass reloading equipment should not be used as they can cause a static charge (big no-no with Black Powder).





Black Powder cartridges are fun and they wont hurt your gun. Corrosion was caused more by old school corrosive primers than the actual Bp, but dont be lazy about cleaning your gun afterwards.It can actually be easier to clean the gun (than with smokeless powder) when you figure everything out. There is definitely a learning curve and some trial and error with BP.





For more info go here. ask alot of questions. If you dont feel safe dont do it.











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Note: on the 38-40, its actually a 40cal bullet and case volume is probably a bit more the the .357Black Powder load for a 357?
If you gotta do this look for cowboy action black powder .38 Special ammo. Clean your Ruger well afterwards.





NOTE (IMPORTANT): .38-40 ammo won't work in a .357 Magnum. The casing is of bottle neck design (unlike the straight wall .357 Mag.) and the actual bullet diamter is closer to .40 or .41 rather than .355 to .357 as in the .357 Magnum. It won't even work if you change the cylinder out from .357 Magnum to .38-40 because the bullet itself is too wide in the .38-40. I have the Ruger 'old' Vaquero in .38-40/.40 S%26amp;W, so just use the black powder .38 Special ammo NOT the blackpowder .38-40s.





Good luck.





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Research SASS or CAS reload tables





I wasn't going to answer because I don't have the specific tables


But the above disinformation is too much to ignore





Shooting Black powder loads does not endanger the shooter or the gun


BP does require a different cleaning regimen but nothing too outlandish


There is no reason that a club would disallow this practice, if there is please share the link





Black Powder clubs are about shooting black powder not only cap and ball or muzzle loaders





I don't want to come down to hard on you two but i would try and gain a little more knowledge about black powder weapons and black powder in general


(Sir Bobby excluded)
You're better off just finding a smoke-less powder load around 700-800fps (as in .38 special) and using lead bullets. That way, you mimic the old black powder load, but with regular components and completely safe.





Using a light published load in a powder like Clays, Red Dot, or Winchester 231 will work just fine....no recoil and no BP cleaning.
Do you know just how much rust you will end up with on your ruger B/H


You are willing to ruin a 3 to 400 dollar gun just to try and shoot black powder.


Do your self a favor and go spend 150.00 and buy you a good black powder pistol.
Wouldn't ';black powder club'; mean loose powder and ball, with a percussion cap? I don't think you know exactly what that club is all about. Maybe you should call them and ask.
Are there S.A.S.S. rounds that meet this requirement ?
Don't try and load a modern pistol round with black powder it burns to slow. That's a no-no-no. If its a true black powder club they would not let you do that any way. Not to mention you would probably ruin that ruger blackhawk because black powder is much more corrosive than regular pistol or rifle powder.I don't want to come down to hard on you but i would try and gain a little more knowledge about black powder weapons before i go trying to reload the wrong thing. That's how accidents happen. Hope this has helped you and good luck.

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