Any advantages one over the other? It seems that I can get a no.11 gun cheaper than a 209. I currently have a 50 cal. that uses a 209 primer, but I have never fooled with the no. 11's.Black Powder 209 or 11 primers?
209's are much more reliable, they have a hotter flame. If you are the type of guy to leave a charge in the barrel for a few days it may accumulate moisture and be difficult to ignight with #11 caps. 209's have no problem with this.
I'd recommend 209's either way since thats pretty much the direction most manufacturers are going with their new models.Black Powder 209 or 11 primers?
Bound's hubby here:
While I would lean toward the shotgun 209 primer to ignite black powder, which seems to be the newest trend ... the #11 cap has an advantage.
With the current potential trend of trying to legislate more gun control, or gun control through attacking our ammunition ... the cap can be rather easily fabricated unlike the 209 primer. Back in the '60s and '70s, I remember a small device advertised in the American Rifleman and other gun magazines, that allowed you to use ';Reynold's Wrap'; or other aluminum foil and roll caps you would use in a child's cap gun. If I were in the market for a blackpowder rifle, I would purchase a rifle where the ignition system were interchangeable!
Good luck!
Supposedly, the 209 primers burn hotter and make for a quicker ignition. Personally, I haven't noticed any difference between the two.
I disagree with johndeere in that the #11 caps have always been MUCH easier to find for me, and they're also usually less expensive.
the 209 is the better primer its not going to fowl out and $2.50 to$3.00 is not bad for 100 shots come on
The 209's are easier to work with unless you can use a capper.Also, the 209's are probably easier to find in shops.
i would go with the 209
Stick with the 209s. They are larger and easier to handle and they produce a hotter ignition which will ignite your powder charge best. The No. 11s offer no advantage over the 209s. I have not checked prices but they should be similar in price. Even so, unless you shoot an awful lot like I do, the price of the primers is not a factor worth considering.
Monday, August 23, 2010
Black powder hand gun?
on black power guns why is there 2 clicks on the hamer.i have a .45cal kit that my father inlaw had ,but never put togather.i have put the gun togather,but i have never shot one before so any advice will be well taken.Black powder hand gun?
the first click is a type of safety, the second is ready to fire. carry your gun on the first click when waking, so if you accidentally hit the hammer, it would jar the cap enough to make the pistol shoot, then fully c@ck the pistol when you are ready to pull the trigger and fire the weapon.Black powder hand gun?
First click is called Half Cock and is used as a safety, the weapon should not fire at this stage.
Two clicks is called Full Cock and the weapon will fire at this setting.
You do not wont the hammer resting on the percussion cap when loaded, nor do you wont to walk around with a fully ****** weapon that is why you have the first setting Safety.
****= c@ck who ever sensors this post must thank we all stand around playing with our appendage all day.
The first click is the safety so that the hammer doesn't rest on the cap. Make sure you use pistol lube so it doesn't crossfire and cause the other chambers to ignite as well.
You may find this four page article helpful:
http://hunting.about.com/od/blackpowder/鈥?/a>
The first click is for when you are loading it you will be able to prime it without worrying about the hammer falling and the gun going off in your face. After the gun is loaded and primed pull the hammer back to the second click and it will be ready to shoot.oil acne
the first click is a type of safety, the second is ready to fire. carry your gun on the first click when waking, so if you accidentally hit the hammer, it would jar the cap enough to make the pistol shoot, then fully c@ck the pistol when you are ready to pull the trigger and fire the weapon.Black powder hand gun?
First click is called Half Cock and is used as a safety, the weapon should not fire at this stage.
Two clicks is called Full Cock and the weapon will fire at this setting.
You do not wont the hammer resting on the percussion cap when loaded, nor do you wont to walk around with a fully ****** weapon that is why you have the first setting Safety.
****= c@ck who ever sensors this post must thank we all stand around playing with our appendage all day.
The first click is the safety so that the hammer doesn't rest on the cap. Make sure you use pistol lube so it doesn't crossfire and cause the other chambers to ignite as well.
You may find this four page article helpful:
http://hunting.about.com/od/blackpowder/鈥?/a>
The first click is for when you are loading it you will be able to prime it without worrying about the hammer falling and the gun going off in your face. After the gun is loaded and primed pull the hammer back to the second click and it will be ready to shoot.
Black Powder Composition?
I heard that you can make black powder from a 74/26 Potassium Nitrate/Charcoal mix. But, I'm wonder about the sulpher... Isn't it neccecary?Black Powder Composition?
Gunpowder, also named black powder, is a mixture of sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate. It burns rapidly, producing volumes of hot solids and gases which can be used as a propellant in firearms and as a pyrotechnic composition in fireworks.
Proportions by weight are 75% potassium nitrate, 15% softwood charcoal, and 10% sulfur.
These ratios have varied over the centuries and by country, and can be altered somewhat depending on the purpose of the powder. For instance, low power grades of black powder, unsuitable for use in firearms but adequate for blasting rock in quarrying operations, is called blasting powder rather than gunpowder with standard proportions of 70% nitrate, 14% charcoal and 16% sulfur; blasting powder may be made with the cheaper sodium nitrate substituted for potassium nitrate and proportions may be as low as 40% nitrate, 30% charcoal and 30% sulfur.
Gunpowder, also named black powder, is a mixture of sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate. It burns rapidly, producing volumes of hot solids and gases which can be used as a propellant in firearms and as a pyrotechnic composition in fireworks.
Proportions by weight are 75% potassium nitrate, 15% softwood charcoal, and 10% sulfur.
These ratios have varied over the centuries and by country, and can be altered somewhat depending on the purpose of the powder. For instance, low power grades of black powder, unsuitable for use in firearms but adequate for blasting rock in quarrying operations, is called blasting powder rather than gunpowder with standard proportions of 70% nitrate, 14% charcoal and 16% sulfur; blasting powder may be made with the cheaper sodium nitrate substituted for potassium nitrate and proportions may be as low as 40% nitrate, 30% charcoal and 30% sulfur.
Black powder gun range?
We recently had to give up our range to some other shooters who werre complaining about the noise from the black powder rifles and cannons. does anyone know of any ranges that wouldnt complain about the noise in southern california?Black powder gun range?
Back when I used to shoot rifles, there were quite a few black powder shooters over at the angeles range. Osbourne exit off of the 210. Never seen anyone shooting a cannon though.
Back when I used to shoot rifles, there were quite a few black powder shooters over at the angeles range. Osbourne exit off of the 210. Never seen anyone shooting a cannon though.
Black powder or usp labs jacked?
Mainly for size gainingBlack powder or usp labs jacked?
I don't understand your question.
I don't understand your question.
A question about Black Powder firearms.?
Is the quality of these firearms good or bad?
The company that makes these firearms is called ';Delhi Gun House';.
Are they good or bad firearms?
Thanks
CheersA question about Black Powder firearms.?
I would steer clear of this company if you want a good quality rifle. There are many good mfgs of front stuffers, check around with some reputable dealers before you make any decisions.A question about Black Powder firearms.?
Total crap. Don't steer clear of them, RUN from them... If you buy one, you will soon find that the tolerances are waaaayyyy off...
Two good-quality Italian makers are Uberti and Pietta...
look at cabelas.com.
From what I have heard they sell junk replicas.
The company that makes these firearms is called ';Delhi Gun House';.
Are they good or bad firearms?
Thanks
CheersA question about Black Powder firearms.?
I would steer clear of this company if you want a good quality rifle. There are many good mfgs of front stuffers, check around with some reputable dealers before you make any decisions.A question about Black Powder firearms.?
Total crap. Don't steer clear of them, RUN from them... If you buy one, you will soon find that the tolerances are waaaayyyy off...
Two good-quality Italian makers are Uberti and Pietta...
look at cabelas.com.
From what I have heard they sell junk replicas.
I've a black powder made by Man Made Industry Diamond a tm of GE, catalog No MBS750 any ideas.?
It is synthetic diamond grade. I believe that it is used for industrial tools. For example, diamond cutting tips for certain drills and saws.I've a black powder made by Man Made Industry Diamond a tm of GE, catalog No MBS750 any ideas.?
It is exactly what it says - Some artificially made diamond. It is a commonly used grit for grinding and machining a variety of materials which are very hard and would not be easily abraded by the even more common carborundum based grit powders.
It is exactly what it says - Some artificially made diamond. It is a commonly used grit for grinding and machining a variety of materials which are very hard and would not be easily abraded by the even more common carborundum based grit powders.
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